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There's a recurring theme in your translations both social and political... China and the Chinese are like wounded wild animals, I guess?

Like, China as a state has no ability to hold back and not pounce on weakness, no ability to relax control. No ability to say "Hey we don't actually care about that land on the border with India and maybe guys beating each other to death with shovels there for no reason is morally awful and also a fucking embarassment on an international level so we should stop doing that" - because that would mean losing, and China can never lose, because showing weakness as a wild animal gets you killed.

And despite the incredible social technologies of Kong Zi and Mo Zi and the idea that China will always be China and the incredible ability to integrate even invaders into China... somehow, incredibly, China just cannot cooperate on the Prisoner's Dilemma, because individual Chinese can't cooperate on the Prisoner's Dilemma, because the dog-eat-dog nature of everything means everyone grows up viewing the world as a Hobbesian War Of All Against All.

I've been pecking away at a long essay on your comparisons between Han China and Rome for a while (I'll send it to you later? or maybe once I get into the discord?) and this is part of it. Everything I see of Chinese culture is like, hyper-realpolitik! "Not fucking your neighbors/classmates over at every possible opportunity so maybe they will like you and you can both have a mutually beneficial relationship" is a concept that all American kids learn in elementary school that I think a some sea turtle students I saw in high school in had trouble with... It's not that they were bad or cruel people but after being raised in such a cutthroat environment with such resource scarcity, or being raised by parents who were, who themselves were raised by grandparents who were etc etc, they were uncomfortable with people trying to reach out to them. "Oh no, what does she want from me? Money? Expensive gifts? What favors will I have to owe this guy if I accept his help with my homework?" when people just wanted to see if they wanted to be friends. And of course Weibo is like Reddit always going to make the worst stuff visible so people can dunk on it but it really does seem like the race to the bottom is choking the entire populace.

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I just realized that that telephone operator -- a low-level cog who nearly started a war by disobeying orders -- is the evil negative-universe version of Stanislav Petrov -- low-level cog who prevented a nuclear war by disobeying orders.

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