01/27/24 - I’m very worried that all the Chinese babies adopted by America are no longer alive!
“My neighbour’s daughter has been living in Switzerland for 15 years. Lately, she’s started complaining to me that winter in Switzerland is so cold that it could freeze your ears off, and the social benefits aren’t nearly as nice as the rumours say, and the taxes are about as high as China’s anyways.
And the worst part is, you’re all alone in a foreign land with no one to turn to for help. She wants to come back to China, but can’t let go of her stable Switzerland life either. After hearing all that, we all started laughing. This is a very typical “siege” mindset, isn’t it?
Immigration isn’t the best option for everyone. We all need to think about our choices. Don’t be tricked by surface-level happiness.
In the end, we made fun of her, “Why not come back to China and enjoy the love and warmth of your friends and family then?” And she just smiled and didn’t say anything.”
Comments say, “People who own a Mercedes says it drives like shit too. I think their complaining here isn’t whether it drives well or not, but that they own a Mercedes.”
“She’s humblebragging. If it was actually that bad, she would’ve left. Switzerland has great mountains, great water, and great air, and very low crime. The only thing it doesn’t have is good food and a ton of entertainment.”
“High EQ on display here. It doesn’t matter if Switzerland is good or not, she’s made a bunch of peons feel genuinely happy.”
A question, “Why are there a lot of girls in their 30s still unwilling to get married?”
The reply below, “I’ve said before that I don’t want to marry out of charity, so I won’t marry a guy who’s significantly worse off than me.
And a whole bunch of men started flaming me, saying I’m classist. Maybe hoping that I’d marry down.
So I asked them, if people should be okay with marrying people a lot worse than them, why shouldn’t someone marry down to me?
The same reason rich people won’t marry down to me is why I won’t marry down to poor people.”
Comments say, “Even if they do marry down, they’d only pick someone young and pretty. Who would marry down to an old bitch like you?”
“Because there’s not a whole lot of rich people out there, but there’s plenty of ordinary girls like you.”
“Maybe you’re just not someone other people would be willing to marry down for.”
“Alice Munro has a short story called, “The Bear on the Other Side of the Mountain” [transliteration, I couldn’t figure out the actual title after some brief googling], which wrote about a husband who used to teach at a university when he was young, and frequently cheated with his female students. It all worked out fine and he was very proud of himself, until all of a sudden, it all went away. Women started calling out this behaviour. All the women he cheated with started fighting back, saying that they were traumatised by him, that they were forced into it by his power. He was accused of being a “shameless pervert” and was forced to retire early.
Until the day he died, he never could figure what happened out. He felt like he didn’t do anything wrong, he wasn’t any different from all his coworkers. In fact, there were plenty of people much worse than him, why was he the one who got punished? Why did women change all of a sudden? He’s lost his freedom to all the girls he could want. What happened to all the women who would come flirt with him?
But in actuality, he hasn’t been affected much at all. His wife forgave him. He still has his family. He still has his life. He still has his self. All that’s happened is that he can’t cheat whenever he wants now and can’t sleep with more women, and he already can’t handle it.
Maybe this is what people mean by, “Women’s voices threatens men”. Although feminism and women’s voices haven’t actually brought about any actual losses to men, his cake is still his cake. If you remove even a single icing flower from his cake, he feels like it’s a great loss. The “good old days” when men were able to do whatever they wanted to women and say whatever they want to women is gone now, and a lot of people see that as a “threat”.
But think carefully—what did he actually lose? Nothing except for privileges he assumed were his. He lost the empty promises his father made to him. That’s all. They lost the ridiculous right to step all over women. But that was never a reasonable “right” for anyone to have to begin with. It’s just like how a lot of people love to say that, “Women want so much nowadays”. But women don’t want too much at all. Men have just stuck their fingers into way too many pies. Taking away “supposed privileges” from men can’t be counted as any sort of “threat”, because it should’ve never been theirs to begin with.”
Comments say, “People who stand to profit are always the greediest and yet the most unaware of it. They always feel like just taking a little less is losing a lot.”
“I’ve said before, men complaining and being upset about this is just like a brother and a sister fighting over drumsticks. The brother’s already ate one, and the sister hasn’t yet. But the brother thinks the other drumstick also belongs to him. They weren’t “threatened”, they’re just greedy.”
“Also interesting, the male lead in the novel always believed that he was a “good man“, because he came home every night and never lied to his wife. He was even willing to continue sleeping with his wife. I’ve got to say, Munro is so good at grasping at what’s typical.”
“The long-term trend of women being stronger than men is going to continue for quite a while yet.
At least, as far as the 2000’s babies I’ve interacted with, women have a much stronger desire for money than men.
Like, a lot of men still don’t really know what they’re doing. They’re the same as when we were young, they don’t really get the importance of money yet.
But girls born after 2000 are different. They’re super passionate about their careers, their marriages, anything that can make them money.
Their core mindset is “make money”. You can solve all your problems once you have money.
You can tell in daily life too. Whether it’s in the workplace or the dating market, young girls born after 2000 are a lot more aggressive than girls born in the 80s or 90s.”
Comments say, “Yeah, naive fools do tend to be pretty passionate. They haven’t been beaten up by life yet.”
“I dunno, all the 2000’s kids I’ve met are all about laying flat.”
“They’ve all been spoiled by their moms, how could they muster up any ambition?”
A question, “Why isn’t anyone taking out loans anymore?”
The top reply is, “We printed 28 trillion RMB’s worth of money last year. It’s the same as printing out the entire German economy. If you average it out, it should’ve been 20,000 RMB per person.
If they’ve printed out all that money, where did it all go when the stock market didn’t rise, and the real estate market didn’t rise, and cost of goods didn’t rise?
Of course, we’d never just hand money out to people like America. All of this money was given out to various corporations through the banks. After these corporations have received their loans, they can expand their operation, create more jobs, raise people’s wages, and that’s how money makes it into people’s hands. But once this 28 trillion made it to the banks last year, they discovered that nobody wanted any loans.
If a business isn’t doing well, they don’t dare to give the loan out. But if a business is doing well, they’re not asking for loans. Everyone is thinking about how to save money and spend less, not taking out loans to consume. All the people who took out mortgage to buy houses a few years back have had to default on them now that the economy’s taken a downturn. Everyone’s been fucked already, and now they’re super wary of loans.
So, this money has to flow back. That’s what the news means when it talks about involuntary deflation. Before, the real estate market absorbed almost all loans. But this past year, nobody’s buying houses, real estate developers aren’t buying land, and the businesses in every other industry is either suffering from deflation or laying flat. But if the bank holds onto the Federal Reserve’s money, they have to pay the Federal Reserve interest. So after thinking about it, the only thing they could do was to give the money back to the Federal Reserve. So, most of the 28 trillion just went right back to the Fed.
That’s how the 4 trillion RMB stimulus package worked wonders back in 2008, and yet this 28 trillion hasn’t even made a splash. Nobody on the market wants it, so the only person who can loan it out is the government. So what can the government use it for? Well, to some extent, a lot of the local governments’ land debt has broken 65 trillion RMB now. Most places can’t even pay back the interest. So these governments need to take out new loans to pay their old ones back. And another portion of it is going to go into infrastructure building, of course, because not only can it solve the employment problem, it won’t cause too much inflation.
So, although they printed 28 trillion RMB’s worth of money, most of it is still just rolling around inside government funds. Nobody is borrowing, so of course there’s been no effect at all.”
Comments say, “I’m in Shanghai, and all the equipment in my development has been updated. We’re using high-end marble for sidewalk paving now. Although nobody’s lifestyle has significantly improved, the GDP’s sure gone up by a whole lot.”
“Could they just lend me the 28 trillion RMB?”
“I’m in Nanjing, and I’ve seen them build sewers, then rip it all up, then build it again. You can’t keep fucking around with infrastructure building. It’s just a huge waste. If you want to improve people’s lives, you need to raise people’s income, not build a whole bunch of glowing roads.”
A blogger reposts someone’s experience returning to China to visit family:
“We just went back to China lately to visit my 90-year-old mother. We proactively went to the local police station to report ourselves, and as a result, we suffered all manners of humiliation in the days after. To this day, I am haunted by nightmares, so I wanted to write down my experience, get it all out there, and maybe I’ll feel better afterwards.
I was told by a classmate of mine who returned to Hefei a week before us that going to China now is very different than 30 years ago. You need to report yourself to the local police station right away. We’ve already went through over 30 hours of flights and transfers, and it was 10PM by the time we arrived at home. Perhaps because of jetlag, or just pure excitement from finally coming home after many years of covid, I couldn’t go to sleep until the sun was almost up. My heart was beating all out of rhythm, so I had to take a whole bunch of heart medication, and then some high strength sleeping pills, before I could go to bed finally. When I woke up, I had a splitting headache, and felt like I was stepping on cotton when I walked. I checked my blood pressure, and it was scary high. By the evening, I started getting a hell of a runny nose and teary eyes, so I had to take a bunch of cold medicine. Maybe I took too much medicine or something, I even woke up in the middle of the night to throw up.
The next morning, my husband asked me if I was feeling better and whether I felt up to a walk. I knew he was worried about having to report ourselves to the police station, so I dressed up and walked through the icy winds to our local police station. When I arrived, I found out that they’d moved and merged with a different police station. We walked over, and finally was able to report ourselves, told them our itinerary, showed them our passport and visa, our receipt from customs, our flight ticket stubs, our train ticket stubs, our subway ticket stubs, our address and phone number, my mom’s name and contact info, and they photocopied our passports. After we finally trudged our way home, I let out a sigh of relief, figuring that we were good to go now. I never new that this was only the beginning of our humiliation.
After this, for several days in a row, we were asked to come to the police station because they said that it was over 24 hours between when we got home and when we went to report ourselves. On two of those days, I was separated from my husband and we were both taken to interrogation rooms with heavy steel doors. They made me take off my jacket and my shoes, take off my watch, empty all my pockets, and the police felt around my neck and breast and my waist and patted me down all over and had me turn this way and that. After he scanned me all over, I was made to stand in front of a wall with a ruler, and they took mugshots of us. The first time I was searched and photographed, I was taken to a different room and handcuffed and manacled to a chair to be interrogated. They asked me a whole bunch of questions that had nothing to do with my return to China. After my husband got out, he pleaded with them to not put me in a chair with handcuffs and manacles, because I had heart problems and can’t take this kind of humiliation. I wasn’t handcuffed after that.
After they were done with their interrogation, the police pointed to a spot on the interrogation record and told me to sign. I quickly scanned the page, and found a line that read, “After entering China, they did not come to the police station to report themselves, and after being found out, they were summoned to the police station.” I questioned him, “How did you find out? How did you summon us? This was all completely made us! We had to ask around while we were sick to find you guys to make the report!” I cross those two lines out in the interrogation record and refused to sign. My husband told me later that he didn’t bother reading the page before signing. That he trusted the cops wouldn’t lie about something so minor.
All of those days, we were either summoned to the station or were called by police, even on the weekends. Our passports were taken time and time again, and god only knows how many copies were made. I’ve signed my name on god knows how many thick stacks of documents. I can’t remember how many times I was forced to leave my thumbprint. I remember one of the documents I signed and thumbprinted said that they checked our criminal history and was unable to find any. What a waste of time and manpower.
They showed us material on other people too, that this guy or that guy didn’t report themselves in time and were fined a thousand or seven thousand RMB.
One day, then even came into our development with their lights on in their police cars, to tell us to come to the gate to sign more documents. And we, again, signed our names and put our thumbprints god knows how many times on thick stacks of documents. Maybe because of the police lights, while we were signing, there were a lot of people gathered around the gate. Afterwards, when I got away, my parents’ coworker asked me what was going on, and I just answered, “Gotta report myself for visiting my mom.” And she sighed, “You need to do all that to visit your mom?” And went through the crowd to go back home. I heard a lot of people discussing, “Why are they doing this?” “The environment is too bad nowadays.” A lot of sighing.
The tenth day after we legally arrived in China holding a legal visa, we were told to come to the station again to “sign some documents”. And this time, we got a “Hefei City Police, Lu Yang Substation Administrative Punishment Decision.” In the decision, it said that we were “lawbreakers”, that after their “investigation”, we “failed to report ourselves to the local police station after entering China.”
I told them that I came to report myself despite being sick, that this decision doesn’t match what actually happened at all. The policeman told us that this is the format that all of these decisions are written in, and he can’t change it. And my husband told me, “Forget it, just sign it, or this’ll never go away before we leave for America.” So we signed the pages where they told us to over and over again.
On our way home, 20 minutes into our walk, we got another call by the police that we didn’t sign at the right places, so we have to return and go through the whole process agin. And that was the beginning of the end of our nightmares.
I don’t know how many people have crossed thousands of barriers to visit their family, only to have disaster befall them. I don’t know how to fight back against this utterly ridiculous law. When my parents and friends come visit me in America, they never need to report themselves to the local police. I don’t know what other country in the world even have similar regulations.
I took this photo of the police sorting through other people’s cases while he’s looking for our papers. In the years since Covid, a lot of people have decided to visit their family and check up on their parents. The police have sure been busy.”
The blogger writes, “I’m totally shocked. I had to repost this to shock all of you too. Apparently, the standard advice for this is that if you need to visit family in China, go to a hotel. Don’t even think about hosting friends at home anymore.”
Comments say, “If you haven’t changed your nationality and just live overseas, do you still need to report yourself for returning to China? Just wanna know.” OP replies, “No.”
“Does she have some sort of background that puts her on a list or something? I’ve got lots of friends who are ABC who come back to China twice a year, and they all live in their own homes without any problems. I’ve never heard of anyone having to deal with this.”
“Read the whole thing, and I can determine that they’re 60-70 years old, graduated from a STEM university. I don’t know if it’s Harbin or Northern or Hefei or Nanjing. But they’ve at least abandoned their Chinese nationality 30 years ago. As for whether they had public funding for going overseas or paid for it themselves, who knows, but it happened back in the 80s or 90s, so come to your own conclusion about that. Tons of people come back to China every year, and all of this hassle costs the police station money and time too. Why are they so strict about this couple in particular? I think where there’s smoke, there’s gonna be fire.”
A question, “Why do foreigners like to adopt Chinese babies?”
Comments say, “I’m very worried that all the Chinese babies adopted by America are no longer alive! This is what my friend wrote:
We don’t have the opportunity to get to know a lot of things, so there’s a lot of background information we don’t know. For example, are there Chinese kids on Epstein island? This reminds me of something. I majored in English and have worked in translating. In the early 90s, my teacher introduced me to a job where I would transfer legal documents regarding adoption in the Civil Affairs Department, mostly involving couples with no children from America. I even personally participated in the handing off of a baby girl. The Americans were a pair of middle-aged people. According to my teacher, every time an American adopts a baby from China, the orphanage can get an income of several thousand USD. My teacher would take over 1000 USD in processing fees as the middle man. As just a translator, I’d get paid several hundred USD too. I have no idea how much the head of the Civil Affairs Department gets, but I doubt any step of this process is free. And nobody knows what happens to the kids once they make it to America, but our laws dictate that no one involved in the adoption, not the middle man nor the orphanage, is allowed to leak any information about adopted children. And no one can question where these orphans are going and how they’re doing.
After I read that, it made chills go down my spine. If what my friend said was true, then it means that we’re unconditionally just trusting in adopters from America. We no longer have any responsibilities or obligations to the se adopted children, and we’ve given up on the right to care about these children’s safety, lifestyle, education, or anything in their future.
Once you see the horrific reality of Epstein’s island.
After you see the state of human rights in America.
You gotta know that when we signed these adoption papers and took these USD, Chinese people were still full of fantasies about western civilisation. We still thought of America as the Lighthouse of Human Rights, that it was pure and flawless. But in reality, it’s a fucking slaughterhouse! It’s hell for babies! Epstein’s island has only increased our doubts about American society. I’m reminded of a line from our former Secretary of State, “We imagined you to be too good.” These baseless fantasies about America’s moral uprightness has meant that when we formed our policies, we were never on guard against this demon, whether politically, economically, culturally, or when it comes to diplomacy, entertainment, and education. Including the adoption of babies. Have we been sending our children into a tiger’s den? We need to rethink our entire mindset when it comes to communication with America.
I strongly call out to Chinese social institutes, to investigate if any of Epstein’s so-called charities or other western NGOs have branches in China, and what these branches are doing. Right now. Thoroughly. In particular, we need to figure out what happened to all the kids who were adopted to America! And, we need to ban westerners from adopting Chinese children right now! Can we not afford to raise these kids ourselves? How is it not abandoning our children to hand them over to foreigners for just a couple thousand USD? How is this any different from human trafficking?
Ever since colonial days, westerners have been building orphanages and hospitals in China using the name of “religion” and “charity”. And after liberation, Chinese people have discovered that these orphanages were hell for children. Countless children were tortured and murdered. And later on, we admitted that, “We’ve imagined America to be too good.” What reason do we have to believe that American society has improved?
I’m really worried that all the Chinese kids adopted by America may no longer be alive!”
Comments say, “Almost all the kids adopted by America are girls. It really helps them stick China with the label of “sexist”.”
“We are sexist, though. Finding a healthy abandoned boy is so much harder in China than finding an abandoned girl. This label didn’t come from anyone else.”
The Alice Munro story is called "The Bear Came Over the Mountain"
someone down -> someone marry down